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2009-04-17 09:31:49
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2009-04-16 18:45:49
Jei skaitytojas būtų atidesnis, jis pastebėtų, jog pasakoje dėmesys akcentuojamas ne vien tik į "darymą". Kalba eina apie mūsų kultūros evoliucijos fazę, kurioje šiuo metu mes visi esame. Kalbama apie programos instaliavimą, ko pasekoje atidžiam skaitytojui visai teisėtai turėtų kilti mintys apie pačius programuotojus, arba programų užsakovus (kažkas gi tas programas kuria, ir ne šiaip sau dėl sportinio intereso - niekas nesidaro iš oro, arba dėl oro...). Darymą, bei to rezultatą sąlygoja programa. Tiesiog, šį bei tą dar norėtųsi palikti ir pačiam skaitytojui, juolab, kad nuorodos paliktos pakankamai aiškios...Deja, ilgainiui imu manyti, kad paskutinioji mano išsakyta mintis smarkiai klaidinga....
praeive
2009-04-16 17:54:29
... ale klausyyyykit!!! :) Liuks! :) Va, kaip galima - matant tik atskirus zodzius daryti toli zengiancias isvadas... :) Teisingai!!!! Visus - i lentyneles, nustatom kaltuosius ir nekaltuosius (butina salyga, kitaip - nesijausi visazinanciu!)... Labai idomu pasidare, salia ko ponas Juozinas stato Dieva?
Juozinas
2009-04-16 13:22:13
"Smerkdami amzinybes iliuzija neigiam Dieva" - pasirodo kai kam iliuzija ir Dievas stovi greta. :) Jei neturesi realybės jausmo ir raustis nereikės - jau esi kape. Ne visi "darytojai" neigiamiečiai, bet išmintis pusiausvyroje, o jos nėra, o kaltininkas pagal jus tie "nedarytojai"? "Straipsnis kelia susierzinima savo "visazinio" tonu" - jo, kiekvienam norisi tokiu pasijusti.
praeive
2009-04-16 12:36:02
Tai ko pats Antaninas daugiau nekomentuoji??? Straipsnis kelia susierzinima savo "visazinio" tonu. Negi viska galima sukisti i lentyneles? Negi visi "darytojai" neigiamieciai??? Jei neturesi iliuziju, gali gatavai kape uzsirausti. Nereikes laukti galo su laseline venoje. Mirsim visi. Niekas neliksim, kad ir kokie gudrus butume. Smerkdami amzinybes iliuzija neigiam Dieva, neigiam svajone ir t.t. ir pan. ...
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2009-04-05 08:59:47
Man tai irgi labai labai labai labai ir dar labai patiko.
Antaninas
2009-04-04 23:32:14
komentarai geri, tik kiek mazoka pagal toki stiliu, gal kas gali daugiau :)
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2009-03-28 13:31:28
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2009-03-27 16:47:52
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2009-03-25 12:09:01
Nuostabus. nėr ką daugaiu ir bepridūrti. Ne taip jau ir seniai, man pačiam buvo bebaigianti įrašinėti 'amžinybės iliuzija'. Bet matyt mano antivirusinė dar suveikė, ir supratau, kad ne tuo keliu veda mane.. Be abejo, ne vien mano čia nuopelniai. Visą galvą lenkiu HS, ypač Age, be kurio nebūčiau toks, koks esu, ir pagaliau atsibudęs.

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